tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22576594.post114021060881389439..comments2024-02-08T07:33:49.907-08:00Comments on Re-Imagineering: Restoring Walt Disney's Disneyland: TomorrowlandMr Bankshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12952506736745891323noreply@blogger.comBlogger37125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22576594.post-16712497584141511582009-11-16T14:48:45.061-08:002009-11-16T14:48:45.061-08:00I Think your Preaching well!
And I for one would l...I Think your Preaching well!<br />And I for one would love to see the People Mover Back in Action, maybe re-vamped and including a nod to the New Disney Sequel to TRON2 "Legacy"...Bring back the game grid, bring Back the People Mover, and YES Put the Space Hips back on the damn roof where they were when I was young!<br />michaelcalab@gmail.com<br />http://www.petitiononline.com/pplmover/petition.htmlMike Calabresehttp://www.facebook.com/#/mike.calabrese1969?ref=profilenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22576594.post-53416924761345047072009-05-04T16:21:00.000-07:002009-05-04T16:21:00.000-07:00I agree with this posting, Tomorrowland has gone d...I agree with this posting, Tomorrowland has gone downhill over the last ten years, and it's over crowded. They should've left in the People Movers, the rockets above it, America Sings and Captain EO, all of which were extra things to do in that land, that alleviated the long lines throughout the park. Tomorrowland is in desperate need of change! And enough of those attractions where you have to shoot things to gain points. (yawn)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22576594.post-46448368339465228452008-07-25T01:51:00.000-07:002008-07-25T01:51:00.000-07:00I totally agree with the new Tomorrowland revamp i...I totally agree with the new Tomorrowland revamp idea. It needs it desperately. The magic from the "world on the move" theme of the '67 Tomorrowland is needed to reinfuse some life and magic back into the land. And this could be done both with re-imagineering some of the classic attractions so sorely missed, but also leave plenty of room for new ideas for the next generations. Why can't there be both? I think definitely bringing back a version of the Peoplemover would fill a tangible void, and the rocketjets/asto orbitor should be returned to it's proper place up on the tall platform it once adorned instead of cluttering up the Tland entrance. And please get rid of the ugly gold and brown color themes, they just don't work. Our space program and NASA haven't changed their look so much so that displaying current and future technology wouldn't still work with 60's looking technology. Futuristic ideals today seem to incorporate a great amount of post-modernism, both in terms of past looks and themes even with a certain amount of "retroism", but never being outdated and passe, something that has greatly changed in our society with modernist views of say 40-50 years ago. And today's generation almost expects it and would certainly enjoy it. This would be some very welcome and much needed re-additions to a new Tomorrowland that today's world could really use. And or course an updated Adventure Thru Inner Space attraction would be outstanding. This was one of the attractions I could never get over being removed. it was so purely magic and unique, and as relevant today as ever. I wish the Skyway could make a comeback, nowhere on Earth would a skyway type attraction take you through the center of a Matterhorn mountain! How unique was that? Maybe thin of some modern gondolas that carry 6 or so people? Anthing's possible at Disneyland!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22576594.post-58708301969338735422008-04-21T12:20:00.000-07:002008-04-21T12:20:00.000-07:00I think embracing the mid-century design, as menti...I think embracing the mid-century design, as mentioned with the restaurant at LAX, would unify Tomorrowland and tie the attractions together. Getting rid of the stupid observatron sculpture and installing the rockets (weenie)back would be a positive first step, and probably not cost all that much, as the infrastructure is still there. Getting rid of Honey I Shrunk The Audience and replacing it with a new version of ATIS or a cool space flight similator (an improved Mission To Mars?) would be nice. I honestly think, to keep in with the mid-century theme, bringing back the Moon Rocket to the entrance area, in full scale, would be a visual enticement no kid could ignore. The Moom Rocket really set the stage for Tomorrow Land.<BR/><BR/>Star Tours: I'm kind of tired of the Star Wars co-branding, and not really sure what it's doing in Disneyland in the first place. I mean, surely the imagineers could come up with a similar simulator ride that could equal or surpass the story told on this ride?<BR/><BR/>I honestly think given the chance and an adequate budget, the talented imagineers already in Disney's employ could bring back the glory and excitement of Tomorrowland for generations to come.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22576594.post-20115302507763784732008-03-13T02:57:00.000-07:002008-03-13T02:57:00.000-07:00Totally agree with you! Maybe instead of a water ...Totally agree with you! <BR/><BR/>Maybe instead of a water lights show they could use something like the water fountain that forms falling words, it was at WIRED's NextFest last year. It could be around the opening and would be easily changeable. <BR/><BR/>And the house of the future would be great, i know they had a "green" eco-friendly house at the same event mentioned above. It seems like there would be no shortage of sponsors for such an attraction, and its a very popular idea right now. <BR/><BR/>And i would be overjoyed to see a verion of the peoplemover type experience recreated with a modern twist! Also perhaps a more current NASA vision for journey to mars? NASA would be all over the publicity with their new timeline. When I worked at the park alot of people really did visit the NASA exhibit and little kids would go wide eyed with wonder as they looked around. <BR/><BR/>As to whether your suggestions would appeal to a younger crowd, being in my 20's I can say that your idea's totally appeal to my age group.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22576594.post-55837301013336812062007-10-07T08:14:00.000-07:002007-10-07T08:14:00.000-07:00i agree with you.but they sould keep innovations a...i agree with you.but they sould keep innovations and honey i shrunk the audience.hey has anyone ever done flying saserces?what happend to them?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22576594.post-1163662010971388472006-11-15T23:26:00.000-08:002006-11-15T23:26:00.000-08:00Couldn't agree more. I visited Disneyland today fo...Couldn't agree more. I visited Disneyland today for the first time in about a decade. While I enjoyed Space Mountain and Star Tours, Tomorrowland overall struck me as being some how "broken".<BR/><BR/>I didn't realize the Rocket Jets had been removed, and actually walked around confused for a moment looking for them. I really missed that Saturn V replica that looked so tall and scary to me as a child. Their replacement looks like a silly kiddie version that wouldn't have impressed me at 3, certainly not worth my time now.<BR/><BR/>Innovations was HORRIBLE. The opening speech made me feel like I had signed up to be in a commercial test audience. "And check out this new PEN PHONE. It even has a CAMERA. On the screen, pictures of Earth from space thanks to GOOGLE! Now go play on computers with...INTERNET GAMES!" Ooooh! Aaaaah! I could have avoided the line and replicated the Innovations experience by pulling out my own mobile phone and surfing the web. I skipped the ASIMO robot figuring it would be as bad as the rest of the show.<BR/><BR/>And how on Earth could Disney have eliminated CircleVision?!? I never once missed that when visiting in my younger years. I never got tired of the presentation. To this day it is something completely unique.<BR/><BR/>IMHO the following should be brought back ASAP: Rocket Jets, CircleVision, and Carousel of Progress. If ASIMO is any good, put him in his own attraction.<BR/><BR/>The rest of the park looked pretty good, and I really enjoyed the design of California Adventure. But Tomorrowland needs to be fixed!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22576594.post-1160417283664847582006-10-09T11:08:00.000-07:002006-10-09T11:08:00.000-07:00actually I agree with the author. a sort of a retr...actually I agree with the author. a sort of a retro tomorrowland would be good. WHY? because some ideas and dreams from the past have found their way into the busy and fast world. we want to see new things, however, since I was born in 92, I would like to see some of the things in the 60,s 70,s and 80,s because like I said above dreams and ideas have ways of coming to today and tommorrow. the future is not the old, but the young of every family, but the 1996 tomorrowland focused on the parents not so much the kids, because they may become the next generation of imagineers to design the best rides ever. I SURE WOULD LIKE THAT HONOR.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22576594.post-1159343867117860082006-09-27T00:57:00.000-07:002006-09-27T00:57:00.000-07:00I say replace the people mover, replace the rocket...I say replace the people mover, replace the rocket jets, get rid of innoventions and honey I shrunk the audience both are really bad....and why not reopen the tahitian terrace. The restaurants at the park have all been ruined when they have been revampedAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22576594.post-1151168630400167652006-06-24T10:03:00.000-07:002006-06-24T10:03:00.000-07:00WDW's tomorrowland is not in a state o crisi the o...WDW's tomorrowland is not in a state o crisi the only problem it faces is stich and the monsters inc. laugh floor comedy club. It still has COP and is open almost all the time now that isner is gone and it still has People mover but renamed TTA, and the tron tunnel has been removed from the carousel theater. P.S. the incredibles people mover is NOT a good ideaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22576594.post-1147978454011381382006-05-18T11:54:00.000-07:002006-05-18T11:54:00.000-07:00I agree! Tomorrowland used to be so inspiring for ...I agree! Tomorrowland used to be so inspiring for my generation. The problem is the media now views the future as post-apocolypse, something Walt Disney would never have done. As for the Mighty Microscope from the Adventure Through Inner Space it can still be seen at Disneyland. When putting together the Star Tours ride, some of the model builder's at ILM, sorry to see Inner Space closing, built a model of the Mighty Microscope and put it in the garbage dump that your ship flies through.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22576594.post-1144078699862882152006-04-03T08:38:00.000-07:002006-04-03T08:38:00.000-07:00hey now dont knock Agrifuture...its one of the few...hey now dont knock Agrifuture...<BR/>its one of the few remaining things i can say on my disneyland tours for friends.<BR/><BR/>ps: a m a z i n g blogAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22576594.post-1141875958954809422006-03-08T19:45:00.000-08:002006-03-08T19:45:00.000-08:00I appreciate your future view of tomorrowland and ...I appreciate your future view of tomorrowland and can only hope it can be realized.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22576594.post-1141668826774352002006-03-06T10:13:00.000-08:002006-03-06T10:13:00.000-08:00Just looking through your archives and came upon t...Just looking through your archives and came upon this article, with which I couldn't agree more. To me, Tomorrowland was always about hope for technology's impact on the future, not nostalgia about a future that never happened (a feeling that the Vernesian theme really creates in my little head). <BR/><BR/>I agree with another commenter here in that Tomorrowland needs its own Pirates or Haunted Mansion. And since this is a dead thread, I'll go ahead and post my killer idea, which popped into my head while I was on the treadmill yesterday.<BR/><BR/>I know it sounds like I'm stealing from Austin Powers, but it is an obvious idea: How about a tour of a villian's secret lair? <BR/><BR/>Here's the storyline: Guests are taking the group tour through the evil Gen. X's secret base while the general and his robot hordes begin to put into action a stolen time conrol device. (OK, bear with me.)<BR/><BR/>Meanwhile, super scientist (Tom Swift/Strong-style) and his good robot companion infiltrate the base. <BR/><BR/>Guests hop in a large buggy, with a robot driver and host, who conduct the tour, showcasing all the neat features that go into an evil lair. All the while, in the background, our hero sneaks in and steals the time control device. <BR/><BR/>There's an evil villain speech at which point our hero reveals himself, our driver turns out to be the good robot and there's a cool slow motion fight scene between the animatronic hero and the evil robots (see, slow motion because he has the time control device and you can have a really funny fight sequence, just avoid the dated matrix jokes). <BR/><BR/>A self-destruct button gets pressed and our good robot driver leads us to safety (as we get glimpses of our hero's fight for survival in little vignettes). Somebody, somewhere, gets strapped to a table in front of a golden laser.<BR/><BR/>Throw in every spy-movie cliche for comedic effect and you have a fun ride. And, eventually, it will lead to a better movie than the Country Bears ever could. It's all storyboarded in my mind.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22576594.post-1141515877368708232006-03-04T15:44:00.000-08:002006-03-04T15:44:00.000-08:00How about the People Mover track being cleaned up....How about the People Mover track being cleaned up. The "Incredi-Pods" idea is worthy of consideration. The old "Tron" tunnel would be perfect for a run along with Dash. Or even some of the other ride through attraction tunnels could be used as show scenes of Disney and Pixar movies and dvd's.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22576594.post-1141451879726641642006-03-03T21:57:00.000-08:002006-03-03T21:57:00.000-08:00>>Tink launched form where the Skyway once went th...>>Tink launched form where the Skyway once went through the Matterhorn.<<<BR/><BR/>Acually no, Tink is launched from a door near the top of the mountain where she has been emerging for decades... the Skyway passages were considerable lower than that and at a different angle.<BR/><BR/>The fireworks have nothing to do with the Skyway caves and bobsled track.Merlin Joneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13397520005969644808noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22576594.post-1141437660932756242006-03-03T18:01:00.000-08:002006-03-03T18:01:00.000-08:00The Skyway can't come back because during the Reme...The Skyway can't come back because during the Remember...Dreams Can Come True fireworks display, Tink launched form where the Skyway once went through the Matterhorn.<BR/><BR/>So you can't bring back the Skyway without getting rid of the new fireworks show. Which is better than the Skyway ever was anyway.<BR/><BR/>And they're committed to doing the fireworks for at least the next five years.<BR/><BR/>After that, who knows. But Tink coming out of the Matterhorn is awesome. Really really awesome. I would hate for that to go away.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22576594.post-1141264436023821642006-03-01T17:53:00.000-08:002006-03-01T17:53:00.000-08:00How about Magic Kingdom's Tomorrowland??I think it...<B>How about Magic Kingdom's Tomorrowland??</B><BR/><BR/>I think it is in a dire need of help.<BR/>It has gone threw a major idenity crisis also, <I>maybe more so than Disneyland.</I>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22576594.post-1141259898681541422006-03-01T16:38:00.000-08:002006-03-01T16:38:00.000-08:00I grew up in Anaheim and have been going to DL sin...I grew up in Anaheim and have been going to DL since 1961. I grew up there and have seen all the changes. For the past 10 years I have lived in Portland, Oregon, and go down to O.C. once or twice a year to visit family. A visit to my beloved DL used to be a requirement; yet I have grown so increasingly despondent with the direction it has gone that I rarely want to go anymore. I hate that all the stores have become Disney Stores; I hate that wonderful attractions have been ripped out and replaced with crud like Innoventions; I hate the uninspired wasteland of DCA; I hated hearing of the dangerous crowds that formed in DL after the fireworks ended and that DL had the nerve to tell guests that they need to plan their activites better!?! What is going on there? What are they thinking? I get a pain in my gut just thinking about it. Tomorrowland used to be such a cool place. I loved the PeopleMover, the look, the energy - and they've killed it like they've killed much of the rest of the park. Disneyland was my first real joy and later my first job - I'm a DL geek to the core and the last time I went I felt like I didn't even care if I ever returned, though I know I will. I hope, hope, HOPE the new management can restore the old magic, but they really have their work cut out for them. It's much easier to destroy than to rebuild.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22576594.post-1141149253586187472006-02-28T09:54:00.000-08:002006-02-28T09:54:00.000-08:00I totally agree that there needs to be a Tomorrowl...I totally agree that there needs to be a Tomorrowland overhaul. The one thing that really annoys me with it at the Magic Kingdom in Disneyworld is the Stitch attraction. For such a great movie with a beautiful story, it seems like they just took out the old "Extra-Terror-Estrial Encounter" (spelling?) and replaced those animatronics with Stitch-related figures. Nothing original at all. It seemed like the old ride wasn't getting enough attendance and it was easy enough to just re-do the same ride with Stitch replacements. In my opinion, Lilo and Stitch could open the door to great many creative ideas instead of this.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22576594.post-1141123083525221002006-02-28T02:38:00.000-08:002006-02-28T02:38:00.000-08:00The more I've thought about it over the years (wel...The more I've thought about it over the years (well, at least since 1998), I've really thought that they should have fully embraced the 1967 aesthetic in their Tomorrowland revamp at DL.<BR/><BR/>The LAX airport attraction is a perfect example of maximizing the theme. A Tomorrowland using this space-age/googie aesthetic combined with the best of modern ride technology would be killer.<BR/><BR/>Adventures Thru Inner Space with modern effects and ride systems? Sign me up right now.<BR/><BR/>There's a way to embrace the design of the period without it being completely tongue-in-cheek and kitschy. It doesn't have to be loaded with obscure references. It just has to be *cool*.<BR/><BR/>I would love to see this done, and every Tomorrowland allowed to retain a unique identity. There's been an alarming homogenization of Tomorrowlands in recent years that must be stopped and turned back. Finding a unique voice for DL would be a perfect start.<BR/><BR/>MCAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22576594.post-1141116787102556862006-02-28T00:53:00.000-08:002006-02-28T00:53:00.000-08:00Tommorrowland needs serious sos asap. I think the ...Tommorrowland needs serious sos asap. I think the key is when DL openned in 1955 they were thinking 1983 for tommorrow.Certain things are still relevent such as Star Tours ( needs revamp), Space Mt, and the subs( Nemo will be an added plus) Astro Orbitors works if once again moved back to high above tommorrowland. Buzz is fun but not too futuristic but can suffice as a immeresed in the computer game world. <BR/>Autopia is today the freeways have been built and have pot holes in the real world but electic cars are still far from being perfected in the real world so DL has an opportunity to show us how it could be to be enviromentaly friendly and have fun at the same time.<BR/>Adventures through inner space is still relevent to the future and with today technology and special effects would be awesome .<BR/>The people mover can also be revamped for relativity in tommorrows world and hopefully the Tron show is still there and could be once again enjoyed.<BR/>The house of the future could make a huge return, there will always be a need for houses and there is still a future the possiblities there are endless.<BR/>Flying saucers? rode em when I was very young and still dont have one in my garage so its once again still in the future I am willing to bet with todays advancements they wouldnt break down constantly and they were fun fun. <BR/>The world on the move is what tommorrowland use to mean to me , today I found some old pics riding the peoplemover, the skyway, one of my girls standing by the rail of the subs with the skyway in the background going thru the Matterhorn. Another oldie of the astro jets up on the platform. I disagree with those who equate Dumbo with the Astros at least when they were up above on the platform, that was not a kiddie ride it was breath taking and a thrill ride. Inoventions is a total waste if I want to play video games I can sit right where I am now. The other exhibits are just sponser marketing for products that will be for sale within the year or die a slow death. The Carousel of Progress was not futuristic but a reminder of the past which is the key to the future, would love to see it rejoin tommorrowland.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22576594.post-1141110898262400512006-02-27T23:14:00.000-08:002006-02-27T23:14:00.000-08:00To me, the Carousel of Progress was always the "th...To me, the Carousel of Progress was always the "theme" anchor of Tomorrowland. (Showing my age, I guess.) This was the true "weenie" in the land. When that went away, Tomorrowland seemed to lose its focus. America Sings was good, but really didn't have anything to do with the theme. Innoventions is (barely) better than an empty building. <BR/><BR/>I'd love there to be a new COP built into the existing structure. Not a recreation of the old show, or even an update (What? Carousorizons of Progress?) but a totally new show that defines the theme of Tomorrowland (whatever the heck THAT may be). <BR/><BR/>Without something to pull it together, TL is just a concrete island with a bunch of recycled concepts and merchandising opportunities.Kim EMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03762954899345234443noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22576594.post-1141106094963127292006-02-27T21:54:00.000-08:002006-02-27T21:54:00.000-08:00What was the theme of the 64/65 World's Fair: Prog...What was the theme of the 64/65 World's Fair: Progress?<BR/><BR/>This is a brilliant illustration of the "World on the Move". Progress illustrates the optimistic approach to moving forward, but looking forward without recognizing the past shows ignorance.<BR/><BR/>I would love to see a tour of "tomorrow" from the past (similar to the Horizions continuation of Carousel of Progress), with Ludwig Von Drake as a host.Klark Kent 007https://www.blogger.com/profile/15132628521877592894noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22576594.post-1141104476791767922006-02-27T21:27:00.000-08:002006-02-27T21:27:00.000-08:00While Asimo itself is great, the cheesy fictional ...While Asimo itself is great, the cheesy fictional storyline ruins the whole effect. The family is fictional, the storyline is fictional, but the robot is real?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com