tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22576594.post116007230459026344..comments2024-02-08T07:33:49.907-08:00Comments on Re-Imagineering: The Irrelevance of Mark Twain's Tom SawyerMr Bankshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12952506736745891323noreply@blogger.comBlogger88125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22576594.post-35721903686622065022009-01-29T22:39:00.000-08:002009-01-29T22:39:00.000-08:00Ah Yes, TSI! One of Walt's greatest ideas. TSI i...Ah Yes, TSI! One of Walt's greatest ideas. TSI is a place to just run around and play! Where else can you do that in THE PARK? <BR/>The so called new age Imagineers have truncated TSI, with the removal of Fort Wilderness, the elimnation of the Indian Village that guests were locked out of, and the removal of several walkways on the far end. It's Jack Sparrow Island now, and sadly, a lot less fun. As a Child, TSI was a land in itself. I just loved the secret passage into the FORT. Whenever with a new friend, I would use that passage to confound and confuse the uniitiated. Long ago removed! Now the whole FORT has been removed, or should I say reworked? I think Walt had a certain fondness for the Fort. As the Fort theme is found in at the entrance to Frontierland. As a boy, I remember climbing those Fort Towers, and shooting the rifles, both in Frontierland and on TSI. All I remember is running up the steps and having to wait to use those rifles. Now the Towers on TSI are no more, and the towers of Frontierland have long since been blocked off by a locked door at one location, and conversion of the ground floor for ATM use at the other. Wow, coonskin caps, rifled to shoot indians with. It was perfect back then! I really do miss it in its orginal form. Plase somebody, make them put it all back.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22576594.post-20356456664419002552009-01-06T20:44:00.000-08:002009-01-06T20:44:00.000-08:00No no no! I always try to go to the island at Dis...No no no! I always try to go to the island at Disneyland, but the rafts are always full. You've got to be kidding me. The island, one of the few places kids are really allowed to climb around and run amok, is one of the best things about Disneyland. Argh. (not to quote Jack)Kirstinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18179761463148183842noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22576594.post-6976456951440238732007-02-09T18:20:00.000-08:002007-02-09T18:20:00.000-08:00Yes, this sad. very sad. that place was a heaven...Yes, this sad. very sad. that place was a heaven for my brothers, they played there for hours. but when I went this summer it was not fun. the smoking is terrible. you must wait in the sun while ONE boat takes people back and forth. The bathroom was so small that a women opened the door and hit my daughter who was waiting for one of the two stalls on the island. plus it seemed to stripped down.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22576594.post-1164064586207656822006-11-20T15:16:00.000-08:002006-11-20T15:16:00.000-08:00Just visited Tom Sawyer Island yesterday for the f...Just visited Tom Sawyer Island yesterday for the first time in probably 20 years. It could really use an overhaul. The fort was mobbed by tweens and even some teens, practically mowing down my 2nd grader and 3 year old. Even with the Winnie the Pooh playground, there's still a need at Magic Kingdom for a modern low-liability big kid playground like the bug one at Studios or the dinosoaur one at AK. A Tom Sawyer / cowboys and indians theme would work and keep us old farts happy, but with today's kids, pirates get their imaginations going.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22576594.post-1163226440240673032006-11-10T22:27:00.000-08:002006-11-10T22:27:00.000-08:00I love Disneyland and my memories of Tom Sawyer's ...I love Disneyland and my memories of Tom Sawyer's Island are grand... but when I was a kid I knew who Tom Sawyer was. I was excited to pretend that I was in that adventure and was thrilled to be immersed in a world that I had only seen on TV or in my imagination. The sad fact is this: Children today are not excited or engaged by the Tom Sawyer mythology as they were in the 1950s. Granted there are kids who still enjoy Tom Sawyer's island as it is. They find some enjoyment from climbing around and running through tunnels regardless of who Tom Sawyer actually is, but it's not the type of all consuming joy that it was for our generation. Most kids today yawn at Tom Sawyer’s Island, but would be positively THRILLED to go and experience a Pirate like adventure out on the island. That's a tough pill to swallow but it's true. It has certainly been stated on this site that Disneyland is for adults AND children, so why should children's current interests not be considered? Why should they not be able to revel in the excitement of being a Pirate if that is where their interests are focused? Simply because a bunch of adults want to preserve their childhood fantasies? It's like trying to force your kids to like your old Atari. "Hey son, I used to love these old games!" Can you see your children's eyes rolling at that one? Does that mean Disney should get rid of Frontierland? Maybe. Tear the whole thing down to the ground and put something in that kids and adults can enjoy together (and not just the nostalgic adults), as long as it is done well. There is no excuse for the crap that fills DCA, but who is to say Disneyland is not capable of giving birth to new creations that make our kids feel about Pirates (or anything else for that matter) the way we did about space exploration? Many of the posts on this topic are so bitter and short sighted that I think that many people have absolutely no vision for a change no matter what the circumstance or for whom the change is intended to benefit. They want only things that THEY like and if it wasn't in the park when they were children, then it's crap. This website is a fantastic source of information and discussion, but I dislike when it exists only as a platform to whine and complain about everything that bites about the current Disneyland. Disneyland is a great place because it is a living breathing thing that changes and continues. This site acknowledges the "Not a museum" argument over and over, but rarely have I seen it actually defend that notion. One thing is for sure: some day, some kid will be on the web writing a 50 page essay on why it's so bloody awful (yes the kid is British) that Disneyland is ripping out The Pizza Port. That place where he and his dad used to go to share a Nestle's Strawberry milk together before going into Innoventions. How could Disneyland be so cold and mean and rotten to rip out this fantastic shrine to Pizza which generations of families have enjoyed. Here is what people will tell that kid "Kid: No one eats Pizza anymore. It's a fad that passed many years ago and we want Disneyland to a place where people are excited to come to see and experience things they care about. It's supposed to be everyone's happiest place on Earth, not The Happiest Place for you to relive the 1990's."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22576594.post-1161178144071813842006-10-18T06:29:00.000-07:002006-10-18T06:29:00.000-07:00This just absolutely breaks my heart...This just absolutely breaks my heart...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22576594.post-1160677325950747402006-10-12T11:22:00.000-07:002006-10-12T11:22:00.000-07:00To the anonymous person who said ."And seriously, ...To the anonymous person who said <I>."And seriously, for someone who so hates the current incarnation of Disney's theme parks, why don't you just stay the hell away and get a real job? Seriously. Anyone who b**ches this much and this often just has unsolvable issues."</I><BR/><BR/>I believe the reason why I personally find this site to be most interesting and helpful... at the same time being so upset at the misteps of the Disney Management when it comes to Walt's Disneyland is: I feel a bit hurt that something so wonderful and so special to me could be 'raped' by management. The reason I care about this blog is because Walt Disney's Disneyland is very special to me. The mismanagement of Walt's dream, seems disgusting to me, and sad. Because Disneyland was so special is the reason why I continue to visit, to "relive fond memories of the past", same reason I visit this blog, - because it means something to me, like family. I get upset and saddened if people treat family members cruely, the same I feel I get annoyed and sad when Management treat Disneyland in a way that is below the best possible standards that Walt believed in.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22576594.post-1160587225030828112006-10-11T10:20:00.000-07:002006-10-11T10:20:00.000-07:00Thanks, mnmears! My understanding of the question ...Thanks, mnmears! My understanding of the question was whether this site had actually mentioned three positive things about the parks. Though Re-Imagineering wasn't designed to cover what's positive about the parks (as it's assumed that's pretty obvious) but what has devolved over the last couple decades, it was still important to underline where Imagineers have recently batted it out of the park. We'll continue to do that when inspiration strikes.<BR/><BR/>Thanks for your list! I agree on all counts!Mr Bankshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12952506736745891323noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22576594.post-1160552454464720102006-10-11T00:40:00.000-07:002006-10-11T00:40:00.000-07:00Mr. Banks -- you dodged the question just a wee bi...Mr. Banks -- you dodged the question just a wee bit. I think all of us can name three things Disney has done right in the past 24 months. Here's my list of 7 strictly dealing with Anaheim:<BR/><BR/>1) The ground up rehab of Walt Disney's Enchanted Tiki Room at Disneyland.<BR/><BR/>2) The plussing at Disneyland's Jungle Cruise with the addition of the pirrannah pool. When I attended the 50th kickoff -- it created a fair amount of buzz. Good ROI for what it was.<BR/><BR/>3) Turtle Talk with Crush -- I really think Walt Disney himself would be delighted with this small but truly magical attraction. <BR/><BR/>4) The retooling of Space Mountain and getting it reopened in time for the 50th's big summer draw.<BR/><BR/>5) The restoration of The Lilly Belle for Disneyland's Railroad. This one gave me hope that someone (maybe it was Matt Quimet or CEO Bob Iger but I sincerely doubt it was Jay Rusulo) really cared about something more than what some cost/benefits analysis might say.<BR/><BR/>6) Monsters Inc. Mike and Sully to the Rescue -- an awesome C-ticket dark ride chock full of clever visuals.<BR/><BR/>7) The Block Party Parade at Disney's California Adventure -- probably the best traveling show/parade since the Main Street Electrical Parade.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22576594.post-1160538949504964862006-10-10T20:55:00.000-07:002006-10-10T20:55:00.000-07:00To Anonymous above:1. You're right, there isn't a ...To Anonymous above:<BR/><BR/>1. You're right, there isn't a scientific study out there begging the question of whether Tom Sawyer's Island should be turned into Jack Sparrow-land. Still, if the Los Angeles Times publishes an Op Ed peice decrying the idea you can bet the public isn't too far behind. <BR/><BR/>Regardless, Imagineers are creative enough to forego public polling when it comes to delivering timeless quality entertainment, and they understand a rushed counter-theme redressing of this space spearheaded by MBAs and Marketing Managers rather than imagineers is a scary proposition. Period.<BR/><BR/>2. Though you've obviously mis-read or ignored the header to this site, there are more than a few positive blog entries here at Re-Imagineering. Check out 'Let's Get On a Plane', 'Cutting a Line' and 'Attention Must Be Paid'. <BR/><BR/>3. As for getting a real job, we're all gainfully employed here at Re-Imagineering and absolutely love the work. And yes, they are real jobs.<BR/><BR/>4. Things do change. Yesterday it was Michael Eisner. Today it's Bob Iger with John Lasseter helming many of the creative sign offs at Imagineering. We're all dealing pretty well with that.<BR/><BR/>5. If you want a website dedicated to Disney that is as positive and upbeat as you prefer may I direct you to disney.go.com/ They do an excellent job there and I guarantee you'll agree with everything they have to share with you.Mr Bankshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12952506736745891323noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22576594.post-1160535118797778542006-10-10T19:51:00.000-07:002006-10-10T19:51:00.000-07:00"The public doesn't appear to be comfortable with ..."The public doesn't appear to be comfortable with the idea. And, of course, the public is always right."<BR/>And your scientific survey of the ubiquitous public is...the statistically insignificant sliver of people who read your website. News Flash: "the public" has as many opinions as there are members of same. Please, make your point, it's your website. But stop this pandering. It should be beneath you.<BR/>And with all due respect to your phrase, "It's not a museum, but..." Well, show me 3 changes or additions you're happy with. I've visited your site since its inception, and I can't find even 3 things any of you have approved of. So please just admit you want everything to stay exactly the same as when you were kids, or whenever your first visit was.<BR/>And seriously, for someone who so hates the current incarnation of Disney's theme parks, why don't you just stay the hell away and get a real job? Seriously. Anyone who b**ches this much and this often just has unsolvable issues. I think you began with a few constructive comments and now you need Immodium AD for your mouth.<BR/>Things change. Deal.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22576594.post-1160532012305927822006-10-10T19:00:00.000-07:002006-10-10T19:00:00.000-07:00and as far as previous tie-ins? i believe every da...and as far as previous tie-ins? i believe every dark ride in fantasyland was tied to (and artwork based on) a classic disney animated film.. alice, mr. toad, snow white, peter pan, pinocchio, and dont lets forget dumbo.. but i'd venture to guess the pirate movies wont ever have the lasting effect and staying power those films have had.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22576594.post-1160530456244297502006-10-10T18:34:00.000-07:002006-10-10T18:34:00.000-07:00"When we consider a project, we really study it--n..."When we consider a project, we really study it--not just the surface idea, but everything about it. And when we go into that new project, we believe in it all the way. We have confidence in our ability to do it right. And we work hard to do the best possible job." <BR/><BR/>Walt DisneyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22576594.post-1160525144747944392006-10-10T17:05:00.000-07:002006-10-10T17:05:00.000-07:00>>Up until recently, there were really only two ri...>>Up until recently, there were really only two rides that were at all associated with Disney features - TSI and Swiss Family Robinson treehouse.<<<BR/><BR/>"Tom Sawyer" was never made as a film by Walt Disney, though he always wanted to do it and I read that he had the title researched in the 40's (Selznick had done a popular version in the 30's). Other producers in the MPAA had the title "reserved" - a practice among them at the time. So he was told it wasn't available, but he could make "Treasure Island" instead. By the time the title was available to him again, he had other priorities - - though he may have been planning it in the 60's before his death. Of course, Richard and Robert Sherman did their very Disneyesque version for Reader's Digest/United Artists in the 70's (with Johnny Whittaker and Jodie Foster) and I'm sure they had Walt in mind.<BR/><BR/>So, Tom Sawyer Island was NEVER a commercial film tie-in for Walt Disney, it was a labor of love and a remembrance of his own childhood fancies.<BR/><BR/>(Also, so far as live-action films at Disneyland go -- in addition to Swiss Family Treehouse - - The Matterhorn was inspired by Third Man on the Mountain, 20,000 Leagues had an exhibit and certainly inspired aspects of Submarine Voyage, Babes in Toyland had an exhibit, there was a Mickey Mouse Club Theatre and Circus, Nature's Wonderland was inspired by the True-Life Adventure films and there were various Davy Crockett tie-ins -- not to mention that Jungle Crusie was inspired by the non-Disney film "The African Queen").Merlin Joneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13397520005969644808noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22576594.post-1160512745861436652006-10-10T13:39:00.000-07:002006-10-10T13:39:00.000-07:00The only part of this Pirate Island plan I am uneq...The only part of this Pirate Island plan I am unequivocally on board with is the suggestion that some sort of food sales will be added to the area. Some sort of refueling station is sorely needed over there.<BR/><BR/>I must question the "unattended" assertions about TSI as it is now; when I visited the park earlier this year, I did see people over there. Not many perhaps, and most of the parents weren't letting their kids run around, but it hasn't been entirely abandoned by guests. I think making it an appealing (read: CLEAN) place to be again and visibly plussing what's already there will draw plenty of people, regardless of theme. The treehouse additions certainly caught my eye from the Columbia and made me make a note to check TSI out again when I was less rushed, and I haven't been a running-around little kid in decades.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22576594.post-1160510242998369822006-10-10T12:57:00.000-07:002006-10-10T12:57:00.000-07:00IF it was done in a way that capitalized on the mo...<B>IF</B> it was done in a way that capitalized on the more historic aspects of pirating and <B>IF</B> the themeing fit in with the surrounding locations, and <B>IF</B> it was done in a way that it was not just another spot Capt. Jack Sparrow attraction, then yes, I would certainly support a Pirates themed makeover. <BR/><BR/>But that is likely not the case here. What we are seeing here is a quick attempt at trying to wring every last penny out of a marketing gimick. Pirates of the Carribean - not Pirates of New Orleans or Pirates of the Texas Coast. It's not a fit with New Orleans. And there certainly isn't any idication that this is a well planned out themeing, either.<BR/><BR/>What worries me more than loosing TSI (which I think could be made into quite a great attraction with some serious thought), is the constant branding of Disney Rides. Up until recently, there were really only two rides that were at all associated with Disney features - TSI and Swiss Family Robinson treehouse. Why suddenly does everything have to be themed after an existing movie or feature?<BR/><BR/>I belive that the marketing department may be incredible at promoting, and can litterally turn pennies from stone, they are terrible at long term brand value. They are killing their franchises with poorly executed sequels and tie-ins, and they are turning the Disney parks into a joke of publicity stunts. The parks were built upon a philosophy that attractions and themeing were an artform themselves and very different from animation and movies. They were not copied storylines, but new ideas and new experiences. It's time to bring back that higher level of imagination.StrangeVoiceshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06461535206083562899noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22576594.post-1160468725209818222006-10-10T01:25:00.000-07:002006-10-10T01:25:00.000-07:00JJust when I thought that the Disney Theme Park fo...JJust when I thought that the Disney Theme Park folks were starting to get it...then they went and did this. Wow. They really do have no clue about what Disneyland is all about.<BR/><BR/>Yes, Tom Sawyer's Island is run-down. And Jack Sparrow is much better known by today's children than Tom Sawyer and Huckleberry Finn. So what? I'm sure more kids have heard of SpongeBob SquarePants, or Super Mario for that matter. So - other than the almighty synergy you get with Jack Sparrow - why not make it Super Mario Island? Well, I'll tell you why not - and this is where "getting" Disneyland is so important.<BR/><BR/>One of the biggest reasons that Disneyland works is simple: Walt Disney instinctively knew his audience. And like any great work of art, he designed Disneyland so it works well on many different levels: the great rides, the obsessive cleanliness, the great customer service, the "another world" atmosphere are all parts of it. But the last and most sublime level is the important message that Walt knew we all shared back then: that America was the greatest country in the world, and Disneyland was Walt's tribute to the American spirit that got us there - adventurous, imaginative, forward-thinking, and tenacious. And Frontierland was a key part - representing the tough pioneering spirit that settled a continent. Here's what Walt said about Frontierland in the old souvenir pictorials: "All of us have cause to be proud of our country's history, shaped by the pioneering spirit of our forefathers. It is to those hardy pioneers, men of vision, faith and courage, that we have dedicated Frontierland. . . .These adventures are designed to give you the feeling of having lived, even for a short while, during our country's pioneer days."<BR/><BR/>Watching the patriotic fireworks with our parents at Disneyland - we all felt what Walt did too! Disneyland did more than just dazzle our eyes and scramble our stomachs like most amusement parks; it touched our hearts and souls too. That's why we feel so strongly about it!<BR/><BR/>And that's why losing Tom Sawyer's Island is so damn important. To lose TSI is to lose the heart of what's left of Frontierland, which then extinguishes much of what's left of Walt's celebration of the American spirit.<BR/><BR/>(That today's generation of take-no-risk, safe-at-all-costs, lawsuit-happy parents are the ones who have already neutered TSI, part of a homage to the hardy, risk-everything pioneers that paved the way for our happy and cushy lifestyles is something I find highly ironic. And it's also why California Adventure - even if it becomes Pixarland or whatever - will never match Disneyland's popularity and success if it doesn't grab our hearts and souls more than it grabs our wallets.)<BR/><BR/>So how about it, Team Disney? Rather than just another crass marketing exercise for a movie that'll be forgotten in 10 years (anyone remember "Honey, I Shrunk the Kids"?), why not do something better? Rebuild Tom Sawyer's Island to be a true adventure, one that will open our kids eyes not to just the latest movie fad, but to the true ideals that have already stood the test of over 100 years: the spirit of the pioneers, the spirit of the Old West, and the spirit of America!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22576594.post-1160458554057220012006-10-09T22:35:00.000-07:002006-10-09T22:35:00.000-07:00I say, turn the island into a giant rainbow colore...I say, turn the island into a giant rainbow colored amphitheater and have The Wiggles perform there all day long. Now that's a change big enough to reaffirm that there's imagination left in this world!<BR/><BR/>The Wiggles are SO much more imaginative than Tom Sawyer ever was. And so much more timely and relevant. And kids love them.<BR/><BR/>If Walt were alive he'd realize The Wiggles are what Tom Sawyer Island needs more than ever right now.<BR/><BR/>But even if the island can't become Wiggles Island then any change will affirm Walt's message: That if we keep changing Disneyland then we can rest assured there's imagination left in this world.<BR/><BR/>How about High School Musical Island? That would ROCK! How about Ugly Betty Bayou? That would be SWEET!<BR/><BR/>But whatever you do, just change the island. I'm really losing faith the world's ability to be imaginative.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22576594.post-1160456972841996262006-10-09T22:09:00.000-07:002006-10-09T22:09:00.000-07:00Yes that is exactly what I am saying, Thank you fo...Yes that is exactly what I am saying, <BR/>Thank you for helping me clear that up.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22576594.post-1160452741207569102006-10-09T20:59:00.000-07:002006-10-09T20:59:00.000-07:00To the person who quoted Walt, you left out the on...To the person who quoted Walt, you left out the one about Disneyland would always be changing as long as there is imagination left in the world.<BR/>By not changing Tom Sawyer's Island are you saying there is no imagination left in the world?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22576594.post-1160448160142283152006-10-09T19:42:00.000-07:002006-10-09T19:42:00.000-07:00I think we all need to be reminded by what was spo...I think we all need to be reminded by what was spoken and believed by the founder and name sake of Disney.<BR/><BR/><BR/>"To all that come to this happy place: welcome. Disneyland is your land. Here age relives fond memories of the past, and here youth may savor the challenge and promise of the future. Disneyland is dedicated to the ideals, the dreams, and the hard facts that have created America... with hope that it will be a source of joy and inspiration to all the world."<BR/><BR/>"Disneyland is a show."<BR/><BR/>"Give the public everything you can give them, keep the place as clean as you can keep it, keep it friendly"<BR/><BR/>"I believe in being an innovator"<BR/><BR/>"Fantasy, when properly done in the one medium best adapted to its nature, need never stale for the family taste."<BR/><BR/>"There is more treasure in books than in all the pirates' loot on Treasure Island and at the bottom of the Spanish Main... and best of all, you can enjoy these riches every day of your life"<BR/><BR/>"When we opened Disneyland, a lot of people got the impressions that it was a get-rich-quick thing, but they didn't realize that behind Disneyland was this great organization that I built here at the Studio, and they all got into it and we were doing it because we loved to do it"<BR/><BR/>"You reach a point where you don't work for money"<BR/><BR/>"Your dead if you aim only for kids. Adults are only kids grown up, anyway"Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22576594.post-1160437129430439102006-10-09T16:38:00.001-07:002006-10-09T16:38:00.001-07:00"To all who come to this happy place; welcome. Dis..."To all who come to this happy place; welcome. Disneyland is your land. [b]Here age relives fond memories of the past...[/b]"<BR/><BR/>I think too many people forget that Walt made his park for adults too. Themes and attractions don't always have to be targeted solely to children.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22576594.post-1160437107228542372006-10-09T16:38:00.000-07:002006-10-09T16:38:00.000-07:00"To all who come to this happy place; welcome. Dis..."To all who come to this happy place; welcome. Disneyland is your land. Here age relives fond memories of the past..."<BR/><BR/>I think too many people forget that Walt made his park for adults too. Themes and attractions don't always have to be targeted solely to children.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22576594.post-1160410053270761442006-10-09T09:07:00.000-07:002006-10-09T09:07:00.000-07:00Merlin Jones said:>>>Perhaps it is The Happiest Mu...<B>Merlin Jones said:</B><BR/>>>><I>Perhaps it is The Happiest Museum on Earth!</I><<<<BR/><BR/>ROFL! I think that may the title of my next blog entry. :DDigital Jedihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02374739586203788564noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22576594.post-1160381000992867982006-10-09T01:03:00.000-07:002006-10-09T01:03:00.000-07:00If this is about what the kids prefer, then we sho...If this is about what the kids prefer, then we should just put Shrek out there. Kids love him!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com